It was lovely to get to meet Cassie McCullagh in person and a pleasure to discuss the ins and outs of what we do as urban explorers as part of this ABC Radio National interview.
I remember sitting on the couch in the waiting area, my palms were sweating, and I was getting very nervous before speaking, but once we got into it, it was actually very welcoming, and my fears were quickly put to rest.
It was all over before I even realised. When Cassie wrapped up I have to admit; I felt like I was only just getting started. Particularly around something like the ethics of urban exploration.
This is a complicated argument that I think many of my critics out there cherry pick facts when making the argument for the preservation of buildings by not disclosing what they are.
It is worth me noting from the outset that I don't give out specifics of physical locations. I do name buildings; It is an important part of what I do, and the photo essays are pointless without including the contributions of the communities and the businesses themselves. These people and places should be acknowledged and remembered rather than being allowed to slip away into lost memories.
If you don't own the building, and you don't have permission to be there, you have as little credibility as any other vandal, explorer, copper thief or squatter. Isn't it ironic that the act of an urban explorer breaking into a building is frowned upon within the scene, yet the same people are reliant on someone else breaking in first so they can gain illegal access themselves?
Listen to the full interview here .
From Detroit to Dubrovnik, there’s a flourishing online world documenting magnificent decay; in images of abandoned theme parks, nuclear power stations and concert halls.
Australia's “ruin porn” subculture seek out abandoned power stations, factories, football clubs and hospitals to photograph.
But what are the ethics of what they do - and why do we find the images so magnetic?
ABC Radio National